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Amasa Ives
M, #6853, b. 10 November 1747, d. 22 February 1833
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Family: Bethiah
| Daughter | Betsy Ives+ (b. 16 July 1795, d. 26 September 1880) |
Biography
| Research Note | John Cape's research trip notes. http://genforum.genealogy.com/ives/messages/1255.html: PRELIMINARY REPORT on A SEARCH FOR THE WIVES OF AMASA IVES (Amasa(5) b.11/10/1747 per Wallingford CT. Vital Records V.13 P.543) (Son of Stephen Ives and Sarah Hart) [by John Cape] SUMMARY The record is unclear on the wives of this Amasa(5). Our trip through the vital records and land records in NY. VT. MA. and CT. during April 1999 provides some information and may lead to further investigation. We are now sure that this Amasa?s wife was Bethiah as of March 24, 1794, and his wife was Mary as of March 19, 1816. Also that his children, 2 boys and 8 girls, were children of Bethiah. SCOPE OF THE SEARCH The search started in the land records in Mayville, County seat of Chautauqua County NY and included the library at Jamestown plus a trip to the Myrtle cemetery in Poland township where Amasa(5) is buried. Additional search was made in Madison County land records at Wampsville and the library in Canastota, plus a trip to the Roberts family burying ground on Milestrip Road in Fenner township. At Pittsfield MA, county seat of Berkshire County the land records were reviewed and extensive research was done at the library, which has the best local genealogical reference collection we found. In northern Berkshire county, the land records located in the town of Adams, and the Adams and North Adams vital records in the town clerk?s office in North Adams were reviewed. Some local historical information was found at the library in North Adams. A side trip to check the land records at Bennington VT was unproductive. (The VT Ives families were located further north in the Tinmouth area.) In Bristol CT. the Clock and Watch Museum has an extensive collection of Ives clocks and some by Gideon Roberts. The library in Bristol has a reference collection with some original documents and records of prior research, primarily concerning clock manufacturing by the Ives and Roberts families. Land records were reviewed in Bristol, Wallingford and Farmington. Vital records were also reviewed to some extent. They are not accessible directly unless you have a ?Genealogist Card?, although a few individual inquiries will be responded to. However, that is not a bar to access to the older records for two reasons. The Birth, Death and Marriage records in CT prior to sometime in the 19th century were kept on blocks of pages interspersed at intervals in the land records. They can be usually be found by checking the Grantor/Grantee indexes under "Births", etc.. However the best source of CT vital records for the era is the Barbour Collection at the State Library in Hartford. It is a compilation of the local vital records entries and is cross referenced with an extensive card index. (A cross check of Barbour entries versus local entries at Wallingford indicates that all of the information available at the local level is also included in the Barbour database. ) The reference section in the State Library in Hartford contains an outstanding collection of genealogical resources, including a card index of newspaper, church, family-bible and probate records. There is also a very large collection of family history and historical books and records. The final stop was at Forty Fort PA and the monument that memorializes the Wyoming Massacre of July 3, 1778. Elias Roberts died there and his son Amasa was one of the survivors. (Family historical information indicates that the ?James Roberts? listed on the monument as a survivor is really Amasa Roberts, whose son Jesse married Betsey Ives at Madison Co. NY on 8 January, 1815.??) SPECIFIC FINDINGS The Barbour Collection and the vital records in Wallingford show that there were three Amasa?s born to the Ives families in Wallingford in 1740 to 1750: Amasa Ives, s. Jotham & Abigail, b. 2/7/1742?43 Wall. VR v. 9, p. 554 Amasa Ives, s. Stephen & Sarah, b.11/10/1747 Wall. VR v. 13. p. 543 Amasa Ives, s. Gideon and Eunice, b. 4/15/1748 Wall. VR v. 9, p. 565 Two Amasa's were also married at Wallingford. Amasa Ives Jr. m. Hulda Shailor 12/19/1771 Wall. VR v. 19, p. 215 ( Is he Jr. because he is the youngest of the two Amasa?s born in 47/48???) Amasa Ives m. Rebeccah Ward 12/13/1782 Wall. VR v. 1, p.61 As will be indicated below, we also need to follow Amasa(5)?s brother Stephen Ives. The records show: Stephen Ives, s. of Stephen and Sarah, b. 1/20/1739 Wall. VR v. 13, p. 543 and: Stephen Ives Jr. m. Susannah Parker Nov. 20, 1766 Wall. VR v. 17 p. 196 Following Amasa(5) and brother Stephen, we find in the ?Colonial Records and Proprietary Plans of Berkshire Northern District Registry of Deeds? (This is a copy of an early set of records that precedes the regular Berkshire County Land records and is located with them in the Clerks Office at Pittsfield MA.), the following entry on page 77: ADAMS EAST HOOSUCK ... Page 88 Adams January 18, 1791. Pursuant to a vote of Said Town of Adams 13 March 1786 we the subscribers being appointed a committee to lease out the Publick lands belonging to said Town have proceeded on the business Beg to report that we have attended that service and have leased out the publick lands to the following persons: viz: .... .... To Stephan and Amasa Ives: the north half of second division lot No 45 containing 100 acres during the term of 999 years for the sum of 60 Pounds, 17 shillings and 6 Pence----- We next look at the Berkshire County census records and find that: 1790 Amasa Stephen Free white males of 16 years and upward, 2 1 including heads of families: Free white males under 16 years 1 2 Free white females including heads of families 7 5 1800 Males under 10 years of age 0 0 Males between 10 and 16 0 1 Males between 16 and 26 1 0 Males between 26 and 45 0 1 Males over 45 1 1 Females under 10 years 2 0 Females between 10 and 16 2 1 Females between 16 and 26 2 1 Females between 26 and 45 0 0 Females over 45 1 1 Then in Book No. 1 of the First Series of North Adams Town Records we find the following marriages: Page 47 7/1/1790 George Hodge - Sarah Ives Page 53 7/25/1792 Abraham Cook - Esther Ives Page 58 5/9/1793 Joshua Knapp - Lydia Ives Page 59 12/25/1797 Nehemiah Hodge - Rene Ives Page 63 1/26/1806 John Chamberlain - Lomira Ives Page 64 3/24/1805 Amasa Ives Jr. - Betsey White Page 64 4/07/1805 Ruluff Butler - Matilda Ives The most significant document we found is in Book 3, Page 410 of the Land Records for the area located at the clerk?s office in Adams, (About 15 miles South of North Adams.) It is a deed from William Towner, Stephen Ives and Amasa Ives to Elisha Brown & Jeremiah Colegrove. It is signed: Wm Towner * Seal Stephen Ives * Seal Amasa Ives * Seal Mary Ives Bethiah Ives The deed is dated November 27, 1793. It was signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of Joshua Knapp and Zena (Zera?) Ives on March 24, 1794. It was recorded October 5-9th(?) A.D. 1794 Amasa(5) and Bethiah were husband and wife as of March 24, 1794. [We believe that Stephen?s 2d wife Mary is listed in the Rutland County Vermont Genealogical Gleanings transcribed and gathered by Elijah Ellsworth Brownell, Phil. PA, 1942 which shows that one of the Pensioners at Wallingford in Rutland County as of June 1, 1840 was: Mary Ives Age 75, Residing with John Ives, (Head of the family of residence)] On to Madison Co. NY. (Where Betsey Ives married Jesse Roberts on 8 June, 1815.) In the Madison county land records at Wampsville we find a deed in Book J, at pages 430/431 dated March 19, 1816 between: ?Amasa Ives and Mary his wife of the town of Smithfield County of Madison State of New York of the first part and Amasa Ives Jun?r ... of the second part.? This deed is signed by Amasa Ives and Mary X (Her Mark) Ives and was recorded on 6 June 1816. In the 1810 census for Madison county we find: A. Ives Males 45 and up 1 Females 10 to 16 1 (This must be Betsey??) Females 16 to 26 1 Females over 45 1 (Is this Bethiah or Mary??) A. Ives Jr. Males 10 to 16 1 Males 26 to 45 1 Females 0 to 10 2 Females 26 to 45 1 In Mayville NY on June 22, 1835, the Holland Land Company sold the east half of lot No. 3 in Township No. Two in the Tenth Range to Amasa Ives(6?) This is the initial sale of this parcel after the acquisition and subdivision of the area by the Holland Land Company. (See Book 19, p.292) Subsequent deeds of property in this area are by Amasa(6) Ives and Betsey Ives. No deeds by Amasa(5) were found in the Chautauqua county land records at Mayville NY. CONCLUSIONS 1. It seems clear that the juvenile members of the Amasa(5) family counted on the censuses of 1790 and 1800 had to be children of Bethiah, since she was still alive on March 24, 1794 when the deed listed above was signed. 2. We believe that Bethiah is Betsey?s mother, since the deed was signed on March 24, 1794 and Betsey was born on July 16, 1795. It hardly seems likely that Bethiah would die or leave and Amasa(5) would remarry and have a child by Mary within 16 months??? The 1810 census in NY indicates that Betsey is also the youngest and last child of Amasa(5)??? 3. Some of the Ives females who were married at North Adams in the period from 1790 through 1806 should be children of Bethiah. If the children of Stephen from that group can be identified, then the remaining females married during that time are likely to be children of Bethiah. (Our review did not show that there were other Ives families of this generation in the North Adams area at that time???) 4. No records of the surnames of Bethiah or Mary were found. Some sources indicate that they may have been sisters with a surname of Ames, Eames, Aems, etc.. (We question whether they were sisters, since Bethiah was able to sign her name and Mary was not???) To our knowledge no marriage records of Amasa(5) have been located. FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS THAT SHOULD BE MADE 1. Check the Death Notice for Amasa(6) published in the Mayville NY newspaper (Mayville Sentinel???) on 3 Feb. 1864 DOD 25 Jan 1864. It may include some information about his parents?? This should be available on microfilm at the Patterson Library in Westfield NY. 2. Check the Tinmouth and Rutland County Vermont records and other sources for identities of the Stephen and Susannah/Mary Ives children so the Amasa and Bethiah Ives children who were married at North Adams can be tentatively identified. 3. Investigate the genealogy records of the husbands of the Ives females married about 1790 - 1806 at North Adams to see whether any of those researchers have identified the parents of the Ives females. 4. Check with the Boston Genealogical Society which is purported to have extensive vital records for MA. This may lead to some marriage and birth records that would provide the surname of Bethiah and/or Mary. 5. Check the NY vital records at Albany to see whether there is any record of a death of Bethiah in NY and a marriage of Amasa(5) to Mary. May 10, 1999 John A. Cape Margery - Roberts - Harsin - Cape1 | |
| Birth | 10 November 1747 | Amasa Ives was born on 10 November 1747 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut. (His Findagrave record has 22 Nov 1747 as a birth date).2 |
| Marriage | He and Bethiah were married, date unknown | |
| Death | 22 February 1833 | He died on 22 February 1833 in Chautauqua County, New York, |
| Burial | 24 February 1833 | He was buried on 24 February 1833 at Myrtle Cemetery in Poland, Chautauqua County, New York. |
| Last Edited | 3 January 2019 |
Citations
- [S745] Grass Valley, CA John Cape, "A Search for the Wives of Amasa Ives", In-person research results, GenForum, Genealogy.com (http://genforum.genealogy.com/ives/messages/1255.html : Accessed On Rootsweb WorldConnect database "Kim's New England Ancestors (and more)" 2017)
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records; familysearch.org database
Stephen Ives
M, #6854, b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750
Parents
| Father | Nathaniel Ives (b. 31 May 1677, d. 6 November 1711) |
| Mother | Mary Cook (b. 23 April 1675) |
Family: Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710)
| Daughter | Sarah Ives (b. 29 May 1733) |
| Daughter | Mary Ives (b. 15 April 1735) |
| Daughter | Lois Ives (b. 9 January 1737, d. 16 May 1795) |
| Son | Steven Ives (b. 20 January 1739) |
| Daughter | Esther Ives (b. 13 July 1742) |
| Daughter | Thankfull Ives (b. 15 July 1744) |
| Son | Amasa Ives+ (b. 10 November 1747, d. 22 February 1833) |
| Son | Asahel Ives (b. 12 May 1749) |
| Son | David Ives (b. 29 July 1751) |
Biography
| Family History | Children of Stephen Ives and Sarah Hart. from Familysearch.org search -- see attached list. Davis's History of Wallingford lists 3 children: Sarah b. 29 May 1733 Mary b. 16 Apr 1735 Lois b. 9 Jan. 17371 | |
| Birth | 24 March 1704 | Stephen Ives was born on 24 March 1704 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut. |
| Marriage | 25 October 1730 | He and Sarah Hart were married on 25 October 1730 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut,2,3 |
| Death | after 1750 | He died after 1750 Death date from Wikitree entry. Probably in Wallingford. |
| Last Edited | 7 June 2019 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records; familysearch.org database
- [S738] "Kim's New England Ancestors (and more)", database, Kimberly L. Branagan, Rootsweb (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=branagak); submitted, [contact information for private use]
- [S923] Charles H. S. Davis, History of Wallingford, Conn.: From its Settlement in 1670 to the Present Time (Meriden, Conn.: Published by the author, 1870), p. 828; digital images, (https://archive.org/details/historyofwalling00daviiala/page/n8 : accessed
Sarah Hart
F, #6855, b. 21 May 1710
Parents
| Father | Hawkins Hart (b. 1677, d. 24 May 1735) |
| Mother | Sarah Royce (b. 3 April 1683, d. 31 January 1733) |
Family: Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750)
| Daughter | Sarah Ives (b. 29 May 1733) |
| Daughter | Mary Ives (b. 15 April 1735) |
| Daughter | Lois Ives (b. 9 January 1737, d. 16 May 1795) |
| Son | Steven Ives (b. 20 January 1739) |
| Daughter | Esther Ives (b. 13 July 1742) |
| Daughter | Thankfull Ives (b. 15 July 1744) |
| Son | Amasa Ives+ (b. 10 November 1747, d. 22 February 1833) |
| Son | Asahel Ives (b. 12 May 1749) |
| Son | David Ives (b. 29 July 1751) |
Biography
| Birth | 21 May 1710 | Sarah Hart was born on 21 May 1710 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut. |
| Marriage | 25 October 1730 | Stephen Ives and she were married on 25 October 1730 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut,1,2 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S738] "Kim's New England Ancestors (and more)", database, Kimberly L. Branagan, Rootsweb (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=branagak); submitted, [contact information for private use]
- [S923] Charles H. S. Davis, History of Wallingford, Conn.: From its Settlement in 1670 to the Present Time (Meriden, Conn.: Published by the author, 1870), p. 828; digital images, (https://archive.org/details/historyofwalling00daviiala/page/n8 : accessed
Lois Ives
F, #6856, b. 9 January 1737, d. 16 May 1795
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Family: Joseph Blakesley (b. 1 April 1732)
Biography
| Birth | 9 January 1737 | Lois Ives was born on 9 January 1737 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut. |
| Marriage | 1 April 1759 | Joseph Blakesley and she were married on 1 April 1759 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut, See attached page from Shepard's "Samuel Blakesley of New Haven, Conn" listing the children of Samuel Blakesley and Elizabeth Doolittle, including his son Joseph, who married Lois. |
| Death | 16 May 1795 | She died on 16 May 1795 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut, |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Joseph Blakesley
M, #6857, b. 1 April 1732
Family: Lois Ives (b. 9 January 1737, d. 16 May 1795)
Biography
| Birth | 1 April 1732 | Joseph Blakesley was born on 1 April 1732 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut. |
| Marriage | 1 April 1759 | He and Lois Ives were married on 1 April 1759 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut, See attached page from Shepard's "Samuel Blakesley of New Haven, Conn" listing the children of Samuel Blakesley and Elizabeth Doolittle, including his son Joseph, who married Lois. |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Sarah Ives
F, #6858, b. 29 May 1733
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 29 May 1733 | Sarah Ives was born on 29 May 1733 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
Esther Ives
F, #6859, b. 13 July 1742
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 13 July 1742 | Esther Ives was born on 13 July 1742 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
Thankfull Ives
F, #6860, b. 15 July 1744
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 15 July 1744 | Thankfull Ives was born on 15 July 1744 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
Steven Ives
M, #6861, b. 20 January 1739
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 20 January 1739 | Steven Ives was born on 20 January 1739 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
David Ives
M, #6862, b. 29 July 1751
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 29 July 1751 | David Ives was born on 29 July 1751 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
Asahel Ives
M, #6863, b. 12 May 1749
Parents
| Father | Stephen Ives (b. 24 March 1704, d. after 1750) |
| Mother | Sarah Hart (b. 21 May 1710) |
Biography
| Birth | 12 May 1749 | Asahel Ives was born on 12 May 1749 in Wallingford, New Haven County, Connecticut.1 |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Citations
- [S747] Connecticut Town Records, Wallingford Vital Records: no image available; familysearch.org database
Bethiah
F, #6864
Family: Amasa Ives (b. 10 November 1747, d. 22 February 1833)
| Daughter | Betsy Ives+ (b. 16 July 1795, d. 26 September 1880) |
Biography
| Marriage | Amasa Ives and Bethiah were married, date unknown |
| Last Edited | 3 August 2017 |
Elowen Dear Stalle
F, #6865
Parents
| Father | John Etienne Stalle |
| Mother | Catherine Holly Pearsall |
| Last Edited | 5 August 2017 |